Bleeding Daylight

[omorka]

Three cheers for the old men and women in the big black robes in California! It's long past damned time.

*does the "suck it, bigots" happy dance*

Hopefully, this is just the next brick in a larger edifice.

Comments

[auditrice.livejournal.com]

I heard about that on the radio this afternoon. The DJ said, "The Supreme Court in California has just overturned a ban on gay marriage. And you know what? I don't care! If you're gay and you want to get married and it makes you happy, then that's good for you and I'm OK with that!"

Here's hoping more people take up that view point.

[omorka.livejournal.com]

I am pleased to report that the Spouse's and my marriage did not spontaneously disintegrate at the news. Reports of the demise of the institution have been greatly exaggerated.

Seriously, yeah. I'm a little annoyed that the DJ had to *say* that, as opposed to everyone just assuming that, but I think it's cool that he feels that way.

[quantumduck.livejournal.com]

Keep in mind that even California's (R)'s supported this. This was largely conservative judges making the call. Gov. Arnold has been pretty clear he does not support a (state) constitutional ban on gay marriage. This makes me happy, since he twice vetoed legislation in CA to support gay marriage. (His excuse for this behavior was that he felt voters had made clear they disliked gay marriage when they passed that stupid ballot initiative in 2000, but that he will always uphold the law.) Since this firmly places him in the 'Moderate Republican' column I'm curious to see what McCain sez. I know McCain wanted to appear moderate too, but even Obama isn't a supporter of gay marriage (boo!).

[kansas-dave.livejournal.com]

I think McCain will be hard pressed not to use this as an issue to get socially conservative Republicans fired up.

[omorka.livejournal.com]

His personal record on GLBT issues is not so good, anyway.

If he's sane, he'll explain that he personally doesn't like it one bit and thinks the court made the wrong decision too, but that true Conservatives recognize the sovereignty of the states to make their own decisions, and that thus this is California's internal matter, not one that requires federal legislation, and anyway we still have DOMA so no other state has to worry about it. And then keep saying that every time he gets asked about it, until they quit asking.

If McCain feels he needs to reach out to Crazy Base Land, then yeah, this is going to be a major campaign issue and the words "Constitutional amendment" are going to be bandied about. This will give Obama the out that he, personally, doesn't approve of gay marriage either, but that the federal government has no business interfering with the states like that, and isn't a constitutional amendment to restrict the rights of the citizens a bad idea? Cue Fourteenth Amendment jazz, and his hands are completely clean of Us Damned Queers while still clearly opposing the Crazy Base Land talking points. :-/

[omorka.livejournal.com]

Well, he is a believing Christian, after all. It's really very difficult for someone who (a) has a sacramental view of marriage and (b) honestly believes that homosexuality is a sin to support gay marriage. The best they could do, by their own conscience, is to claim that marriage is, and always has been in the US, a state matter and not one for federal legislation, and that the states have the right to define it however they see fit. Which is more or less Obama's position, as far as I can tell.