Sometimes I just Don't Get It

[omorka]

Okay, I sort of understand the rad-righters who have been upset at Dick Cheney's acceptance of his lesbian daughter from the get-go; they're just being internally consistent. And I sort of understand how there might be many right-wingers who are content to just sort of sweep that under the rug, since lesbians aren't quite as icky as Teh Gay; after all, nothing they can do to each other can really count, right?

And that last is sort of a perennial argument of college-aged sexuality - if a woman is a sexually-active lifelong lesbian, if she never inserts a real tab Y into her slot X, is she still a virgin? Given the sort of contorted arguments teenagers who have made those stupid abstinence pledges go through to claim that they're still virgins despite spending long hours getting each others' rocks off, one might even imagine that your average radical Christian right-winger might well agree that, though a sinner, she is in fact still a virgin, never having known the touch of a man in the Biblical sense.

Now, I don't know anything about Mary Cheney's personal history, nor do I want to. But if she has, indeed, been a lifelong lesbian, if she's never walked on the straight side, then I am exceptionally puzzled by the Christian Reich's reactions to her impending baby. I mean, she's in a long-term relationship, but she hasn't engaged in the 'abomination' (in their eyes) of gay marriage, since her state doesn't permit it; you could say she's engaged, I suppose, since if their state ever changes its mind I'm sure they'll get hitched post-haste. And while her partner isn't going to have a genetic stake in her child, I'm sure she'll be an active and engaged parent. It's not like the kid will grow up in a broken home, or won't have any male role models; that's a pretty close family, and while I'd be terrified to have Dick Cheney as my grandpa, the kid won't know any better.

And only a real Scrooge could possibly be pissed off about the virgin Mary being pregnant during Advent.

Comments

[shefsatyr.livejournal.com]

Well if she's "technically" a virgin and she's knocked up.. should I be looking for a real bright star in the sky about now?

On the bright side if 3 wise men show up it'll be the closest any have gotten to Cheney and the Whitehouse in a long time.

[martialstax.livejournal.com]

I feel bad for Mary Cheney, her family and her partner. I'm sure she and her partner aren't giving birth to a child to Make A Political Statement. I'm sure they're doing it because they simply wanted a child, just like most of the other committed couples out there, straight or gay. But that child will grow up as political symbol (if not necessarily a political football) of gay rights, family rights, privacy rights, and any other number of clashing rights. I even feel bad for Dick Cheney, since this really should just be a family issue, not infotainment for Fox News commentators. I just hope the kid gets to grow up with some semblance of a normal life.

[omorka.livejournal.com]

On the bright side if 3 wise men show up it'll be the closest any have gotten to Cheney and the Whitehouse in a long time.

Unfortunately, if they come from Persia this time, they'll just ignore them. (Worse, if they come from Babylon or Damascus they might torture them or blow them up.)

[redneckgaijin.livejournal.com]

The fundies are using the following argument: by choosing to have a child where there is no possibility of a father figure, Mary Cheney is committing child abuse and dooming the resulting child to a lifetime of sin, poverty and violence... because children raised without fathers have a greater statistical tendency towards these things.

(The fact that the statistics do NOT take into account the fact that the majority of fatherless homes are in poverty, and that those in poverty in general have a greater tendency towards crime, vice and violence, doesn't matter at all to these people, of course.)

Further, the presumption is that Mary Cheney growing up to (a) be gay, (b) not want a husband, and (c) want a child without a father is entirely the fault of Dick Cheney, who as her father should be able to prevent her doing all of these things- despite the fact that Mary is now a full adult.

I leave it to you to wonder just how many of those people would go so far as to believe the woman's role is barefoot, pregnant, and cooking dinner...

[ghostdogmeta.livejournal.com]

Please excuse me whilst I caper.....

That's a kid that won't have problems with bullies.
"My grandpa will shoot you in the face!"

Keisha Castle-Hughes, who plays the female lead
in the new Nativity movie, is expecting her first
child in 2007. In 2008, she'll be 18.

"Oh, God loves them. They get so much done in a day, don't you think?"
"There's nothing deviant about love"
--Jesus Christ, Vampire Hunter

[omorka.livejournal.com]

I leave it to you to wonder just how many of those people would go so far as to believe the woman's role is barefoot, pregnant, and cooking dinner...

So she goes from zero out of three to one out of three and they pitch a hissy about it? Some days their lack of logic is just stunning.