Dec. 7th, 2007

omorka: (Element Pentacle)
So, when a Presidential candidate says "Freedom requires religion"? The sound of the pandering is just deafening. (Link goes to the Slacktivist's commentary rather than the text of the speech, because I wanted to make sure all the Christians weren't with Romney on that one, and Fred has some interesting points about the "priesthood of all believers" doctrine.)

I mean, really, now. He totally dismissed every atheist, agnostic, apatheist, nontheist, humanist, freethinker, etc., etc., out there. Come on, they're at least 10% of the electorate! Surely from a purely political-calculation perspective, that was a bad move. It's not as if there aren't atheist right-wingers, and he just pissed them all off enough to vote for Rudy.

I have no idea where I would fall in his ideal world. I'm religious, true; as it happens, I'd say "I have more gods than he does," but him being Mormon, that might not be strictly true. I probably worship more gods than he does, though. So do I fall into his protected little bubble, as a religious person, or do I fall outside of it, as someone from the great morass of un-Abrahamic religions that don't really 'count'? I mean, I'm literally a Baal-worshipper, at least on occasion. His worldview seems to be the Abrahamic religions and the vast abyss, nothing in between. Surely he at least knows of the Dharmic faiths?

(The other half of the formulation is even worse, as it's directly disprovable. "Religion requires freedom?" Dude? During Hannukah? I mean, okay, that could have been worse, it could have happened during Pesach or Purim, but come on!)
omorka: (Element Pentacle)
So, when a Presidential candidate says "Freedom requires religion"? The sound of the pandering is just deafening. (Link goes to the Slacktivist's commentary rather than the text of the speech, because I wanted to make sure all the Christians weren't with Romney on that one, and Fred has some interesting points about the "priesthood of all believers" doctrine.)

I mean, really, now. He totally dismissed every atheist, agnostic, apatheist, nontheist, humanist, freethinker, etc., etc., out there. Come on, they're at least 10% of the electorate! Surely from a purely political-calculation perspective, that was a bad move. It's not as if there aren't atheist right-wingers, and he just pissed them all off enough to vote for Rudy.

I have no idea where I would fall in his ideal world. I'm religious, true; as it happens, I'd say "I have more gods than he does," but him being Mormon, that might not be strictly true. I probably worship more gods than he does, though. So do I fall into his protected little bubble, as a religious person, or do I fall outside of it, as someone from the great morass of un-Abrahamic religions that don't really 'count'? I mean, I'm literally a Baal-worshipper, at least on occasion. His worldview seems to be the Abrahamic religions and the vast abyss, nothing in between. Surely he at least knows of the Dharmic faiths?

(The other half of the formulation is even worse, as it's directly disprovable. "Religion requires freedom?" Dude? During Hannukah? I mean, okay, that could have been worse, it could have happened during Pesach or Purim, but come on!)

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